Proposal: Relationships

http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/44577/relationships-and-dating was closed after just a couple of days in BETA.

How is this site different from Relationships&Dating site, and why would it succeed where the former failed?

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There are lot of differences. Before going to list them out, let me explain something. Relationships&Dating is all about love and living together kind of questions. Those questions cannot be generalized to a greater extent and leads to massive debates in the answers section rather than productive ones.

Pros of Relationships are vast. For example, take your relationship with your father and it is not working out well. This kind of problems can be easily expressed and addressed without much confrontation. And, vast variety of relationships can be discussed with ease and can be shared with entire world.

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As others have said, this proposal seems to be broader than the prior one.  In fact, it might be so broad that it now overlaps several existing sites.

In case It’s not clear, I suspect that this site would have an uphill struggle to find a sufficient community of members, and that it might collapse back into being little more than a Relationships&Dating retread.

Disclosure: I am not a member of any of the communities I listed above, so I’m not sure what’s on-topic there and what isn’t.

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This proposal is different because it covers a wider area.

It's aim is to cover any relationship and interaction with persons close to the question asker (e.g. the family, friends, partners).

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While you answered "how is it different" to an extent, the more important "and how will that lead to better success" isn't answered. As a matter of fact, IMHO "wider area" would be more likely to fail than former proposal, as the scope being too-narrow clearly wasn't the main reason for old site failures, it was already pretty broad scoped – DVK Dec 14 '16 at 18:27
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Since I wasn't on SE when the last proposal started(and ended) I don't know why it actually failed. If you could explain me why, then I could think of a solution. Any suggestion is always appreciated. – A.Danzi Dec 15 '16 at 9:34

It seems to me that the more important reason Relationships & Dating had failed was because there hadn't been a big enough pool of questions (a ratio of 5.2 out of 10 questions a day).

How to keep this one from failing would be to build a bigger base of questions.

This would attract users, and from there we could also improve on the other reason R&D had failed: a lack of core users.

As was once said in a Kevin Costner movie, "If you build it, they will come."

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Meanwhile, I think that the original R&D site should just be re-opened, but I'm not familiar enough with SE to know if this is how things work here. – Teacher KSHuang Jan 24 at 8:33

TL;DR: As far as I can tell, there weren't any major issues with the core idea of Relationships and Dating. The site simply didn't attract a large community at the time. If Relationships can gather a strong community base, there is a good chance it could succeed where Relationships and Dating failed.


A.Danzi's comment brings up a good point. To answer this question, it's important to figure out why Relationships & Dating failed. So let's look the statistics from the Relationship & Dating beta and analyze where the idea could be improved.

Disclaimer: I was not an active member of Stack Exchange when Relationships and Dating was in beta, and as such have no firsthand experience with the site. I am merely speculating based on publically available information.


Questions per day

Questions per day: While 5.8 out of 10 questions asked per day isn't bad, it isn't ideal either. As Raghu's answer suggests, Relationships covers a broader topic than Relationships and Dating, which could allow for a more generalized range of questions.

Answered question percentage

Answered question percentage: Over 90% of the site's questions were answered. No problems here!

Active users

Active users: Here we have the first real issue with Relationships and Dating. Early on, the site lacked a strong base of active users. While it's hard to tell this early on, Relationships does seem to have a good number of high reputation followers.

Answer ratio

Answer ratio: Once again, no problems here. Let's move on to the final, arguably most critical metric...

Visits per day

Visits per day: This right here is the metric that killed Relationships and Dating. Put simply, the site did not have enough visits per day. This could be due to numerous issues. Maybe 12 days in beta wasn't long enough for the site to grow and foster it's own community. Maybe the site didn't have a good base of dedicated users to start with. Maybe Google's search algorithms brought users to alternative sites to answer their questions. At the end of the day, there's really no way to tell.


In conclusion, even if the idea is very similar to Relationships and Dating, I think enough time has passed to give the idea another chance. (AKA: See TL;DR)

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